as to the comment i made about the most dangerous foreign policy decision since vietnam, was about not just the surge, but the overall war of choice going into iraq. >> well there you have it, joy, your thoughts? you're younger, you've been through it, you studied it in school, i lived through it, but it's the weirdest thing, it looks like a flashback. is it really about the surge? i'm still trying to figure out the anger here. >> these guys both served, as you said, chris, they were actually good friends, brothers in arms in the senate. john mccain seems to be a man who is tormented. he's tormented by these demons that have to do with the things that he was denied. he was denied the presidency. so he couldn't stand george w. bush. he was denied it again, so he couldn't stand barack obama and can't stand anyone that barack obama nominates. and the surge was something that was his. i think that almost in a way john mccain made the surge into the war as john mccain would have fought it as commander-in-chief. and anyone who questions it gets the wrath of mccain. and i watched that hearing